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(B)(N) TLM Talisman Energy Incorporated

July 23, 2014
Courtesy: TLM Talisman Energy Incorporated

Courtesy: TLM Talisman Energy Incorporated

Deal Book. Investors want “more” – they want higher stock prices for the stocks that they own, and more dividends if the company pays dividends, even if the company doesn’t make any money.

Which is fine. We understand that and we would be “confused” and “dysfunctional” if we thought that investors want “less”, or even that they should have less, which many non-investors are wont to believe.

However, notwithstanding that thought, which we need to keep in the forefront of our mind, that “investors want more”, real investors are willing to pay more for less, which they can do if they’re not conflicted by a need for liquidity, or a particular need for income, or an aggressive margin account, which is often the case with investors who want more, now, because they really need more, now.

As a result, patient investors who have been buying and holding the stock of Talisman Energy Incorporated at prices between $10 and $12 for the last two years, got a 10% raise today – in addition to their 2.8% dividend yield – from investors who wanted more, and gave it to each other because it seems doubtful that the real investors would be bailing for a dollar, now (Reuters, July 23, 2014, Talisman says approached by Spain’s Repsol about deal).

We’re don’t know how this will work out; there are a lot of hurdles and Talisman is primarily a natural gas producer in Canada, and Repsol would prefer more oil in familiar locales; the company is not currently in The Perpetual Bond™ because it’s been trading below the price of risk, which we estimate as $12, and it has a downside in the price volatility of minus ($1) off $11 in the next quarter; please see Exhibit 1 below for more details.

Alice's Adventures in Wonderland, Lewis Carroll, 1865

Alice’s Adventures in Wonderland, Lewis Carroll, 1865

And we’re certainly not “jumping in now” because, in our view, “investments” need to demonstrate three things – 100% capital safety, 100% liquidity, and a hopeful return above the rate of inflation – and anything that doesn’t have those three things is just a gamble, and there are lots of those, and the prices are almost invariably bid-up by “investors” who want more, need more, now.

Exhibit 1: (B)(N) TLM Talisman Energy Incorporated – Risk Price Chart – July 2014

(B)(N) TLM Talisman Energy Incorporated - July 23 2014

(B)(N) TLM Talisman Energy Incorporated – July 23 2014

Talisman Energy Incorporated is an oil and gas Company. Its main business activities include exploration, development, production, transportation and marketing of crude oil, natural gas and natural gas liquids.

From the Company: Talisman Energy Incorporated, an oil and gas company, explores for, develops, produces, transports, and markets crude oil, natural gas, and natural gas liquids. It holds interests in various oil and gas properties located in Canada, the United States, Malaysia, Vietnam, Papua New Guinea, the United Kingdom, Norway, Algeria, Colombia and the Kurdistan Region of Iraq, as well as in Australia/Timor-Leste. The company was founded in 1925, has 2,800 employees, and is headquartered in Calgary, Canada.

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